Elouise Factor: Interview

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Mucv-nettv hvtvm nettv hę̄rusen punpvlhoyen,
Today we’ve been given another beautiful day.

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Vkvsąppuecuset owen
It’s cool today,

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orēn nettv hihoyēn tvcak hvnke-vnkē tat fult oweyvnkkv hvtą
because last week was a pretty hot week

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punpvlhoyen.
as he’s allowed another day.

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’Tem punahoyvhant owēs.
We’re going to talk together.

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Heyv puncukopericēt vlakat, mvt Elouise Factor hocefkvt os.
The one visiting us here is named Elouise Factor.

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Estowēt em oketv owē mvnettof arvtē monkat
She’s going to tell us how her life was when she was young,

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opunvkv owat kērret em estvlke vpvkē aret
how she learned her language when she was among her people

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monkat mēkusvpkv-cuko tis aret.
or when she was at church.

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Mowvtē mvn ohfvccvn owvtē etem opunvyēcēn,
We’re going to talk to each other about how it was,

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pum punvyvhant os.
and she is going to tell us.

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Enka.
Okay.

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Mucv-nettv hiyowē ‘pupaketskat mvto cvkicvyēt os.
Today I thank you for being with us.

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Momen estvmimvn likēt, cem mvnęttusof, ’ceculvtēt owa?
And where did you live, when you were younger, growing up?

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Sasakwv, enhvsvtlatkv mvn cvpuse likēt on, mvn enlikit.
West of Sasakwa, where my grandmother lived, I lived with her there.

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Cvpvwvo vwǫlusan aliket on mvo roret–nak te?– cvckuceu.
My uncle also lived close by and he would come by and–what is it?–my aunt, too.

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‘Tohkvlkē owēt ’mvrahrvkvn vpokt owisen, mvn vpokēt onkv.
We lived clustered together, though we lived separately.

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Ē ’toh-arvkēt owemvts. Cvrke tat cvcųtkusē tan,
We just went back and forth. And my dad, when I was little,

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tuccenicusin cvcke vnsonkēpet owemvts. Mv tat mvo cvrke vtotket aret onkv.
I was three when my mother died. And my dad worked all the time.

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Cvckucen enlikit, cvpvwv tis enlikit ąrin cvhoktalet, hoktē vpvkehpen mvn hvtą
I lived with my aunt and my uncle until I grew up, then my father found another woman.

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Cvckuce owē tis ont os haket liken,
She became like my aunt,

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mvn encuko vpēyephoyen
they were going to her house,

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mvn ’stonhkot ’n owis, ’svcak-ahyet lįket owimvtisen, vnherekot.
so I had no choice but to go with him and live with them, but it wasn’t good for me.

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Cvhoktalē ayet cokv respoyvkot ’tvpakvyvtēt owet,
As I got older I didn’t finish school, I left

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Sasakwv, mowen Texas fvccvn ayvyvtēt omen likit.
Sasakwa and went toward Texas and lived there.

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Ąyen cvhoktalet Oklahoma City-n rorit vtotketv vtotkit arit.
As time went on, I got older and got to Oklahoma City and found a job and worked.

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Hopuetake ocvkot ’rolopē cahkēpen arimvts.
I was there for five years without any children.

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Hopuetake vnheciken, mvn vfvstakit ąrin.
Then I had children and took care of them.

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Hok- ’Culvkēpen, hvtą vtotketv vlicēcimvtat.
When they got older, I started working.

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Vm vculvkehpen, vrahrvkvn vpēyvkēpen arit.
As they got older they went their different ways.

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Hiyomusen vlakit ont owisen, Hesaketvmesē tat sulkēn nettv ’svcohmērren.
Here I am today as God has blessed me with many days.

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Hiyomē vlvkēpvyat ’stonhkot owis os kont,
As I am here today I think it’s all right.

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naken omv̨lkvn kerrvkot owēt owisen, nak kerrusvyat vnpohakcat mvn
I don’t know everything, but when you all ask me something I know,

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cem vyoposketv kowvkarēs.
I will try to answer.

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Cem estvlke hvtą kicetskat mvo omv̨lkvt
Your people that you’ve mentioned, do they all

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‘ste-cate ’punvkv ’punahoyēt owemvte?
speak the Indian language?

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Ehe, omv̨lkvt ’punahoyēt ont ‘ste-hvtke ’punvkv kerrvkekot onkv.
Yes, they all spoke, they didn’t know the English language.

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Mvn vneu ’svcvwoskēpet, mvhakv-cuko.
Myself, I became used to it, at school.

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’Rolopē cahkēpit ont owemvts kowis,
Five years, I think it was,

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boarding school mahokat mvn vcvyēcihocen, alikit
they sent me to what they call boarding school, and that’s where I stayed.

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’Punvkv, ‘ste-hvtke ’punvkv kerrvkot owen.
The language, I didn’t know the English language .

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“Cem vhayvhant ont owēs” cvkihocen, ’scvhanhoyē owet kērrvyvtēt owēs.
They said they were going to teach me. They got on to me and that’s how I learned.

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Estimvt ’cetotemvtē,
Who was is that sent you,

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cerket onkat cem estvlket?
your father or your people?

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Cvckucet oken, cvrket oh-vkvsahmen, mvt vcvtotvtēt [ow]ē.
It was my aunt, my father agreed, and they sent me.

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Miss Walkingstick kihocen art owemvts.
The one called Miss Walkingstick was there.

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Mvt hvtą ‘sem vnicaken vcvtutaket [ow]vtē.
She helped them to send me.

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Mv estvcako? Ehe, hoktē vtotkv.
The social service woman? Yes, the worker woman.

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Purcell
Purcell

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Honnv lvstvlke makt okhoyemvtok, Catholic. Mvt on mv ralikit hvse ’rolopē hvnken ralihkit
The black dress ladies, that’s what they were called, Catholic. That’s where I stayed for one year.

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Mvo elvokv owēt owen hompetv ’svmmon,
It was like starvation because there wasn’t hardly any food,

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nak ’stemephoyekot onkv.
and nobody gave you anything.

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Rvlakin, cvrket okat, “’Svnvcowv yefulkvhanccekot os.
I came back and my dad told me “You’re never going back.

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Yatan vrvhant oncces” maken, Sasakwa mvhakv-cuko mvn ’stem vrēpimvts.
You’re going to go here,” and I went to Sasakwa school.

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Monkv mv Purcell kicat mvt.
You mentioned Purcell

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Mv boarding school kihocē Eufala, Ardmore owakat, onkat Hartshorne, Jones Academy tis kihocemvts.
That boarding school that you mentioned, like Eufaula, Ardmore and such, or the ones called Hartshorne, or Jones Academy,

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Mv tokon ayetskemvte?
You didn’t go to those?

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Ehe, mvn vcvtothoyvtēt ont
Yes, that’s where they sent me,

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Ardmore Carter mvn hvtą makt ont vyetvn cvyact os kict owvyan,
Ardmore Carter is where I really wanted to go.

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cvrket vm etektvnecekon ’stonhkotok ē Sasakwvn mvn vfekhonnimvts. Mv Sasakwv mimvn?
But my dad wouldn’t let me so I just stayed in Sasakwa. There in Sasakwa?

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Mvt cem etvlwv owēt ok kic[e]ccvnkv? Uh-huh. Cencuko. Onkv mv, owisen mv
Did you say that was like your home town? Yes. You home. Okay and anyhow

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Mowēt mvhakv-cuko ’cetothoyvtē mvt…
the school they sent you to…

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you know
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’svculicakat, cvrke mvo,
the elderly ones, my father too,

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cokv-heckv arēt owvtēs, Chilocco,
he attended school at Chilocco,

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mvo “Em opunvkv ’punahoyēpeyat ’punahoyekot owvkvs– pu– owvkvccvs” pukihocen,
he was told not to speak the language when we spoke to each other, he told us,

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“Mowaccen owat, kvpe tis cecokwv ’scem okkoseyvrēs”
“If you do, then we’ll wash your mouth out with soap,”

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pukihocet pumēhocen fullēt owemvts, maket onayet owemvts.
that’s what he would tell us.

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Centv? Mowēt cekicakhowekot omvtē?
What about you, they didn’t say anything like that to you?

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Naken mahokekot owemvts, mvn owat.
No, they didn’t say anything like that.

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Vhvn cvckvlke, cvrke ’stowusat ‘ste-hvtke ’punvkv kerrēt ont owisen,
My parents knew how to speak a little English,

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cvpuse tot, cvpvwvt ’punvyephoyekot onkv, mvn ē ’ste-hvtke ’punvkv kerrvkot cvhoktalvtēs.
but my grandma and my uncle didn’t speak, so I just grew up not knowing English..

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Mvn mvhakv-cukon ahyvyof, mvn kērret owimvts.
After I went to school, that’s when I learned.

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Kērrvyē monkvt os.
I’m still learning.

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Momen hiyowat aecehoktalet aretskat,
And now, as you grow older,

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mēkusvpkv-cuko monkat cuko-rakko vretv,
at your church or your ceremonial ground that you attend,

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em vkvsvmkv ocvkēt owepēt onkv, este-catet owēpeyat, monkat hvtą hokkolv tis owakekv.
They have beliefs, so we as Indians may believe in both ways.

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Centv? Estowaten vkvsvmēt owet fullatskēt owemvtē, cemvnę̄ttusat?
What about you? Which way would you all go when you were younger?

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Mēkusvpkv-cuko, mv cvpvwv tēkvnvt onkv.
The church, because my uncle was a deacon.

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mvn vhvn enlikvyof, mēkusvpkv-cuko fųllēt on.
That’s who I lived with and we always went to church.

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’Mvtę̄kusen mv ’scvhoktvlēt onkv yv.
That’s the only belief that I grew up with.

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Cuko-rakko makcat,
The ceremonial grounds that you spoke about,

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cvrke tat vm eyacekot owemvts.
my dad didn’t like them.

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Vyvhanvyat tayekot os maket ont. Ont owisen,
He would say he didn’t like for me to go,

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letikit, ’towēt fullēt ont on okhoyen owat kont rahehcit kowet hēcvyan,
but I ran off to go see their customs.

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naket vntat ’svcafvckē arvyē tayonkot on hecimvts.
What I saw, I could never be happy going there.

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Cvrke tat yacepekot onkv, keriyet orēn cvhvnhoyvtēt owēs, vretv.
My dad didn’t like the idea that I went, he found out, and got after me for going.

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Mont owisen mēkusvpkv-cuko min arit vcvhoktalvtēt on,
Anyhow I grew up going to church,

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’stin ’senherepvkot ont owisen, mvn avcvhoktalvtēt onkv mvn
although I’m not better than anybody else, that’s just where I grew up.

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mv min, you know, arit…
That’s, you know, where I went.

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Mv ētv min vtę̄kusen kērreccv? Uh-huh.
That’s the only place you knew? Uh-huh.

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Mowepē svsēt owēpēt ont os.
Anyhow some are that way.

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Hvtvm mv mēkusvpkv-cuko aretskat tat,
And the church that you go to,

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cecke onkat–oh, cecke–cerke ton hvtvm mv vpvltake,
did your mother–oh, your mother–or your father and the rest,

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hvpo hayatskēt owēmvte? Oh, ehe.
did you all make camp? Oh, yes.

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Cenhvpo ocatskēt owēmvte? Uh-huh.
Did you all have a camp? Uh-huh.

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’Ste-hvpo sulkēt owemvts, Fushvcce.
There were many camps at one time at Bird Creek.

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Mont owisen, vyę̄pen–vhvn nak te?–somecēt vpēyvkēpen,
But then a lot of them had left–what is it?–and have passed on.

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’Te hvpo tat leklewē hakēpet atakpvlatkē hakēpen,
The camps are deteriorating and falling down now.

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Hokkolet, tuccēnuset vhoskēt owēs. Fųllē monkvt ont owisen, puhvpo hayēt.
There are just two or three of us left. We’re still going and we’re still making camp.

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Cvrkeu hofone fullof, sukhvn ocet onkv,
When my dad was around long ago he had hogs,

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sukhvn elēcen owat, vpeswv tat vhvn ‘ste-hvpo hayakat.
and if he butchered one, he would [give] the meat to those camping.

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Enheromet arēt owemvts.
He was generous.

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Hofonof tat etenokeckv etem ocvkēt fųlt owemvtisen,
Long ago they had love for one another,

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hiyowat ’mvrahkē hakepēt ont os.
but now it has become entirely different.

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You know, etekerricē naken ocakn owat, you know,
You know, they used to think of each other, if they had something, you know,

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etemaket mowē fult owemvts.
they would give things to each other.

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Mont owisen hiyowat monko hakepēt ont os.
But it’s gotten so it’s not like that anymore.

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Hiyowat mv mēkusvpkv-cuko ąret vculvten makekv,
Now she’s speaking of the church where she grew up, so

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yvhiketv hvmken, yvhiketv em vloste-mąhēt owēt owetot makt on mvn hiyowat yvhikvhant owes.
now she’s going to sing one song which is her very favorite.

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Mēkusapvlket Cēsvs vpaket fullan,
The Christians will be with Jesus,

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Mvn etohkvlkēt vpēyepvkvrēs.
We will gather and go there.

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Pum erkenvkvlke Cēsvs vpaket yicof,
When our ministers come with Jesus,

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Mvn etohkvlkēt vpēyepvkvrēs.
We will gather and go there.

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Hopuetaket Cēsvs vpaket yicof.
When our children come with Jesus,

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Mvn etohkvlkēt vpēyepvkvrēs.
We will gather and go there.

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Cawvntaket Cēsvs vpaket yicof.
When my sisters come with Jesus,

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Mvn etohkvlkēt vpēyepvkvrēs.
We will gather and go there.

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Yvhiketv hę̄rusēt ont os, ’mapohicetv,
It’s a beautiful song, to hear it,

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’mapohicetv hę̄ret ont pohvkat ’ste-fēke ofv ’senhērē
it is good to listen to it but better to receive it in our hearts

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aret, este hę̄re– hueret owetv owēt ēkērret vrepetv ont os, mowē yvhįket.
as we go about, know yourself as a better person and be in good standing, singing like that.

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Hvtvm mv hofonof mv estuce nocepusetv tis ’yacn owat,
Now long ago if a little baby needed to sleep,

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hvtą cukofv tis hiyēt owekv,
if it was hot inside the house,

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fettvn vpokēpēt owemvtok
they would usually sit outside.

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Estuce nocepetv ’yacat mv estuce em ohwakketv owēn hahoyēt owemvts.
When a baby needed to go to sleep, they used to make a hammock for the baby.

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Mvt kērretskē monkv?
Do you still remember that?

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Cukofvn hvtvm mēhocēt owē mvn, mvn hēcimvts, kvnvwv vtēkat mvn hiyowēn.
I saw them do one in the corner of the room like this.

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‘Swvnakvn wvna– mēhocēt owen,
They used a rope

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vccetvn ohwet hę̄ren
and a quilt,

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yekcēn hvlvtē tayēn mēhocēt owemvts, hiyowēn.
they folded it over the ropes tightly, like this.

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Fettvo, eto ’towēt taksehokn owat
Outside, too, if two trees were standing somehow

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–’stowē makvkē tē?–
–how do I say it?–

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hiyowvkēt owē mvn ‘swvnakv mvn mēhocēt owemvts.
they would have the ropes like this and make it.

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Vsa taksehokat owē. Ehe.
Like those standing over there. Yes.

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Mowofvn ’svwvnakucen hvlvthoyēt ont, ‘sfekhonnen owat, mvn hiyowēt’s.
They would pull a little rope and when it stopped, you would do it like this.

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Hvlvtakn owat– ’svyokląsket owvtēt [ow]ē you know momen nocēpet.
you hold onto it–that’s how it would swing and he would sleep.

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Nocę̄pen.
He would sleep a long time.

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Hofonen wakket nocēpet onkat te?
they’d lay there and sleep for a long time, wouldn’t they?

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Hiyowat cvohoyekon,
Now they don’t hold them,

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ē mvn ohwakechoyen.
they would just leave them in the swing.

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Hoyanvtēt ont o.
That’s how it was in the past.

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Hiyowat cvohoyē ’svwoskēt ont o.
Nowadays they’re so used to being held.

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Vyųtkusēt, vyųtkusē wakkēpat mvn
He laid in there so tight

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enherēt owat owēs kowvkēt ont onko?
he was so comfortable, we’d like to think, don’t we?

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Mv otvkē owētok owvtēs.
It seemed like it was hugging him.

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Mowis seko hakētt o, hiyowat nak mowat.
But there’s no such thing as that nowadays.

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Mowen hvtvm mv hompetv hayet owvtēt ont on makvki–makiskv,
Now she was saying she used to cook

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nak este-cate enhompetv.
like Native food.

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Pum estvlke hayaket onkat pum mvnę̄ttusis owēt,
Our relatives prepared our food when we were younger,

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“Mowēt kērret owvkvccvs,” hompetv hayetv mahoken owemvtok.
and they told us we needed to learn how to cook.

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Hompetv estowakaten onkat sukhele tis kihocvnto, mv tv? Hayetv kērreckēt owv?
What about the various kinds of foods, like what they used to call pig feet? Do you know how to make that?

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M-hm, ’sakkonepke mvn makt okhowemvtok.
M-hm, they call it ’sakkonepke (hominy and pig feet).

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Mowen vhvn avcvhoktalat,
When I was growing up,

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cvckuce ’stowē noricat ahēcit, alikit,
I used to sit and watch my aunt cook,

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mowēt onko kowit mēcvyēt,
that’s the way it’s made, I thought, and I would make it,

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ąyen cvhoktvlēpet hiyowē mēkusvpkv-cuko arvyat ’ste-hvpo mvn noricvyēt ont.
and through the years, now that I’m older, I go to church and cook it at the camp.

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Hvtą osafken hvtą hayvyēt owēs.
And I also make sofkey.

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Hvse orev̨lkv ‘tohkvlktv owēt onkv,
Our church meeting is every month,

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nettv tvcak ostat orat mvn hvse hvnkē orekv, mvn vhvn ‘ste-hvpo hayvyat mv noricvyēt,
every four weeks, that makes it once a month, I make camp and cook,

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’sakkonepkeu noricvyēt,
I cook ’sakkonepke, too,

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hvtą naken makt ohkis kowvkot hvmkat.
and I forgot what I was saying before.

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Mv ‘tuce?
The kidneys?

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‘Tuce. Wakv ‘tuceu, mvo noricvyēt ont.
Kidneys. I would cook beef kidneys, too.

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’Svkvrpehcet estowē? ’Svkvrpehcit, owv ’sakcanit,
Do you boil it down? I boil it down and add water,

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mǫrken,
and it boils a long time,

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hvse vkērkv hokkolat mahen.
about two hours.

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Mv tvlvswēt owēt owv? Ehe. Mowēt onkv.
Is it tough? Yes, it is.

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Lowąckusen ceyacn owat, hvlvlątkusen noricetvt o.
If you want it to be tender you have to cook it really slowly.

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Mvn mēcvyēt owē.
That’s how I do it.

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Mvn noricetv kerrvkot o.
I don’t know how to cook it.

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Mowē norihocat hēct owvyisen mvn.
I have seen others cook it, though.

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Orēn tvlvswēt owētok kowit mv ’sēnaoricvko ontis.
I figured it would be tough to cook so I never bothered with it.

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Hę̄rat este mvt herēt os makakt hompakēt.
A lot of people say it’s really good and eat it.

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Lopuckvhanen waret,
You cut it into smaller pieces,

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mvn mēceccen owat, lvpkēn norēpet owē.
if you do that, it cooks faster.

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Mvn mēcvyēt owē.
That’s what I do.

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Onkv mvn mowēt
So then that,

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–nake te?–
–what is it?–

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Hor– naken kicvkēt onkv?
How did you say it?

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Morket ’sohlikv? Ehe.
You boil it and leave it? Yes.

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Horet horēn mēcetskof,
you boil it and let it keep boiling,

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owv ’svkarpofvn mvn…
when the water boils down…

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Owvn hvtą asakcanet.
Just add water.

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Owen hvtą neha vpayeccēt owv?
Do you later put grease in it?

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Neha tąyen vhvn vpahyet…
I add my grease first…

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Mv vpeswvn vpayit owē, hvlvlątkusēn mehcit,
I add the meat, then I heat it slowly,

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’sakmǫrkē hakn owat, mvn owvn vpayvyēt owēs.
and when it bubbles, then I add water.

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O, ’sakmoreccat ’stowusat. Oh, ehe.
Oh do you fry it a little? Oh, yes.

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Mvn hayetv kerrvkot on.
I don’t know how to cook it.

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Aesenkerrehpis, hiyowat.
Now I’ve learned from her.

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Este sulkēt kerrvkekot ont owisen.
A lot of people don’t know how, though.

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Yekcekot ont owan owaket ont o.
It’s not hard as they say.

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Mowen noricvyēt on.
That’s how I cook it.

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Owen hvtvm osafke kicetskat mvo osafke hakat yekcēt ont os maket,
And that sofkey that you mentioned, too, they say making sofkee is hard,

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“It’d be hard to make” makē-vlkēt mvnettvkusat mowēt ont owan,
the young people say, “It’d be hard to make.”

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yekcekot owan owaket os, mv makeccist on mvt estowēt hayetskēt owa?
but you say it’s not really hard to make. How do you make it?

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Mv kvpe-cvfke mahoket ont onkv mvn takēcvtēt ot,
You should have the lye ready,

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owv hiye hakof,
when the water is hot,

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osafke hakvn aktehhet,
add the sofkey grits,

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mvn ąyen hiyē hakofvn,
then after a while when it gets hot,

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kvpe-cvfken mvo ’svkērkēcvkot, ē akcant owvyēt [ow]ēto.
the lye–that, too, I don’t measure it, I just pour it in.

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‘Culvke mēcakt owakt [ow]etot mowen mēcvyēt ont.
I do it the way the old people used to do it.

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[Mo]misen vhvn ak-eteyamin,
But I stir it,

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spoon owan, hakkvn mehcit,
like with a spoon

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last owvyēt owē enhome ’stowēt ont owat mv ’skērrvyēt owē mowen
I taste [the lye] to see how strong it is

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home tis hat ohoyemvtisen, mv mēcetv cvyaceko
They used to make it strong, but I don’t like to do that.

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ē laset hēcit on, takētn owat, ąyen ’sohliket,
I just taste it, and if it’s ready, I let it sit [cooking] for a while,

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hvse vkērkv tuccēnat, ostat mahen ’sohliken norētn owat mvn
for about three or four hours until it’s done

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takētt os kowvyof.
or when I think it’s ready.

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Mon mv vce– nake te?–vce–naken kict ohketskv?
The corn–what is it?–corn–what did you say?

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aktēhkv?
goes in it?

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Vce… Osafke-hakv. Osafke-hakv makat.
Corn… Sofkey corn [white flint corn]. What you call the sofkey corn.

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Mvt, mvt naket ont owa? Vce?
What is that? That corn?

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Vce hvtke ont o. Vce hvtke mvn mēhocēt ont o
It’s white corn. It’s white corn that’s used.

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Vce mvrahrvkat ont onkv, vce lanat ocen, hvtkat ocen.
There are different kinds of corn: there’s yellow corn and there’s a white one.

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Mvt osafke ‘shayetvt ont os mahokēt owemvts.
That’s the kind to make sofkey with, they used to say.

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Mvt owē.
That’s it.

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Vce hvtke. Ehe.
White corn. Yes.

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Vneu mowet vkerricvyistok, mv osafke hayetv mvt.
That’s what I was thinking about too, to make sofkey with.

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kērretok mvo ’punicvkar kont ohwvyan,
she would know so we will talk about it, is what I was thinking.

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mv osafke-hakv mahokēt owemvtt on, kerrahkeko tokot on, hvtą
That’s what I heard that you make it with sofkey corn. I didn’t think they knew so

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hę̄ren ’monayet owvhanvkat tvlkēs.
we should tell them the right one.

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[Mo]misen ’skērkuecet ǫhoyvtēt [ow]isen,
But they used to measure it,

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vneu mēcvkot owēt onkv,
I don’t do that,

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ē mvn hēcvyat mvt, mv mahe tą[ye]t os kowvyēt on.
I just see when I think it’s about right.

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Vm pētaket o ’skērkuehcet pum ona[ye]t owis cvkicaket ont owisen,
My kids tell me to measure it and tell them,

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mēcvyē sekot owētok.
but I never have done it yet.

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Mon lupe tv? Lupe?
What about liver?

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Lupe, matvpomv yv wakv ’tuce makvyat ētv mowē ta[ye]n noricetvt ont o, lupe.
Liver, you cook it the same as the beef kidney I was talking about before, liver.

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Neha nvcǫwusēn?
A little bit of grease?

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Horkēn ceyacn owat, nehan ’tǫwusen vpahyet,
If you want to boil it, just add a little grease in it,

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’sakmorken ceyacn owat, vhvn mvo ’sakmorececcēs. Oh.
if you like it fried, you can fry it too. Oh.

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’Stowēn ceyacn owat, horkat ton, ’sakmorkat ton, mvo.
Whichever one you want boiled or fried.

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Mowat, ’svkvrpē owēn kicaket owēt owv, mv tv?
So is that the one that is boiled down, as they say?

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Mvt horkat[e]t os.
That’s the boiled one.

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’Svkvrpof, owvn asakcahnvyēt, mvo noricvyēt
When it’s dried up, I add more water and cook it.

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Hiyowat mv lupe mvo hę̄rat ’mvlustvkēt owēs.
Now liver, they really like it a lot, too.

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M-hm. Estenhericēt owēs kicet hompakēt ont o.
M-hm. They say it’s good for you and eat it.

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’Yacakēt onkv, mvn noricvyēt [ow]ē, vnhēcken owat
They like it, so I cook it when I find it.

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mvo nesetv ’shecetv yekcēt owēt ont owisen,
It’s sort of hard to find and buy,

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ocvkēt on, mvn vpohvyēt owē, neskv-cuko ’mvrahrvkv.
but they have it at different stores when I ask for it.

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Wakv lupe, onkat sukhv lupe noreccēt owv? ’Stowan?
Do you cook beef kidney or pork kidney? Which one?

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Wakv lupe– wakv ’tuce norvyat oki.
Beef liver– I mean I cook beef kidney.

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Sukhv lupen.
Pork liver.

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Oh, sukhv lupe? Sukhv lupe.
Oh, pork liver? Pork liver.

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Oh. Wakv lupe tv, homphoyēt owv, mvt?
Oh. What about beef liver, do they eat that?

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Matvpowusē tat o, ehe.
It’s almost the same, m-hm.

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Matvmowē tat on. M-hm.
It’s the same. M-hm.

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Monkv hervkvhąnen hompetv hayetv owat kerrvkē tayen pum onat okekv.
Now she has taught us about the good cooking and we should learn from her.

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Mvt ’culvke enhompetvt ont os. Mvn homphǫyēt owēmvtisen,
It’s the elders’ food. That’s what they always ate,

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Wikephǫyen ont owisen, mv hiyowē mvnettvlke avculakat noricetv kę̄rrvkē sekot ont owisen.
but they’ve kind of quit cooking it, because the young people never learned how to cook it.

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Mv kērrusvyat noricvyē monkvt o.
But as long as I know, I’ll keep cooking it.

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Este mvnettvlke hiyowat mv hēceyat pum pētake tis hvtą
The young people we see enow, our children or

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punahvnkvlke, mvnettąkusat, onkat lopǫckusē vwvhanat
our cousins, the very young, or the littlest ones to come,

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you know puntat naken ’stowvhanvtē?
you know, what probably will happen?

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Pum owvkētn owat mvo sepeko hakēpen
and if it happens to us and we’re no longer here,

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on owat, mvn
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opunvkv herąken kerraket, owē tayat.
they should be learning the language as much as they should now.

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Em vcahnetv owēt onkat em onvyvketv estowēn kowetsken owat makēpetskēs.
If you have any words of encouragement, you can tell them whatever you want to say.

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Mowisen, you know, mv ’ste-cate ’punvkv kērrēt kowąkē seko owet ’tos konkot fullēpēt ont on.
The younger people nowadays seem unconcerned about learning our language.

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Mowat puntat kerrēpeyvtē estvmąhēt ont os kowēt.
For us that have learned our language, we think that it is amazing [that we still have our language].

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Mvt oweyis os konkv, fullę̄pet owē ont owat mv tat ocąkē sekot.
We know who we are and we continue on, but they don’t have that.

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you know, ’ste-hvtke owēt mvn fullvhant ont ǫhą? kont mvn kerrēskot ont os.
you know, I wonder if they’re going to go mainstream or we don’t know which way they want to go.

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’Svlsvkēt ont owv? kont kerrvkot o, ’punvkv.
Are they embarassed about the language? I don’t know.

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Ont owisen cutkusēn taklicvyēt owē, vm osuswv.
But I’m keeping a little one at home, my grandchild.

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Mvn ’semvhayvyēt owēs.
and I teach him that.

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Vhvn, ’punvkv hece– Hofonof nerēt on owat,
When we talked–A long time ago at night

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yekcē ’punv̨yekot, hvtą fotket owekot pukihǫcet owemvts.
they always used to tell us not to speak loud and not to whistle.

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Nake tis aecem punahyēs maket okhoyemvtan.
Something might talk back to you.

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Mvn ‘semvhayvyēt owē.
That’s what I teach him.

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Mvn vhvn kerretvn hvtą ’stowusat ’ste-cate ’punvkv lvpkēn esēpēt onkv, ‘sem punayvyēt owē.
He picks up a little of the language quickly, so I speak to him in that.

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en– ’sem punayvyēt on.
I speak to him in it.

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Naken vhvmkv mahkvtēt on, erket,
His dad once said,

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“Oh, nak herekon makētt os kowis” cvkicen,
“Oh, he said something that doesn’t sound good,” he told me,

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“Naken cekica?” kicin,
“What did he say to you?” I said,

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“sokso” cvkicēt makē ontok kowi maken,
I think it sound like “hip”,

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“Mv tat nake herekat, hę̄ran cem ona[ye]t ok.” kicet em onayvyvnk. Uh-huh.
“That’s not a bad word that he’s saying to you,” I told him. Uh-huh.

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Mowat lvpkēn kērrēt owē. ’Semvhayin.
And he learns fast. I teach him.

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Mont owisen ’stowepvhant os, ’culn owat.
But I don’t know what will happen when he grows up.

287
00:20:58,850 –> 00:21:04,936
Mowisen vpvltaket em punayakn owat kerrvkē tayet owē witētisen mvn.
Anyhow I have told the others they will learn I hope.

288
00:21:04,936 –> 00:21:12,505
Mowis hvtą pohakn owē ’stowis, you know, vkerricvkepēt onkv.
Even when they hear it, they don’t think about it.

289
00:21:12,505 –> 00:21:14,733
Ehosvkētt owv kowet kerrēskot os.
I guess they forget, I don’t know.

290
00:21:14,733 –> 00:21:20,056
Yvhiketvo mvn ‘semvhayetv mont owisen mvn kerrēt ont owisen ‘Jesus Loves Me’ makat mvn
I’m teaching him to sing, he’s learning the song ‘Jesus Loves Me,’ that’s the one.

291
00:21:20,056 –> 00:21:24,883
enyvhikin vm vfvstekot os kowisan pohēpet owēpvtēt ot.
I was singing to him and I thought he wasn’t listening, but he was.

292
00:21:24,883 –> 00:21:31,313
Nerē yafken church vho[ye]t owēn vhvn enyvhikin vhohyeyan
One evening we were going to church when I was singing to him,

293
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hvyątkusen kerrepēt owet takyvhikvcuken.
he had learned it, the next morning I heard him singing it.

294
00:21:34,450 –> 00:21:43,433
Pohēpet owan ohwvyvttis kont ‘ste-cate enyvhiketv mvn ‘semvhayvhanis kont ’towisen mēcvkot o.
He must have heard me singing, and I’m going to teach him the Indian songs, but I haven’t yet.

295
00:21:43,433 –> 00:21:52,479
‘Semvhayvkn owat lvpkēn eskerrepēt onkv. Cahkepicēt owētok, hiyowat.
When we teach him he learns quickly. He’s five years old now.

296
00:21:52,479 –> 00:21:58,831
Mvn ‘stem vfąstet owvyē.
I’m taking care of him all the time.

297
00:21:58,831 –> 00:22:02,866
You know, mowēt owēt ot.
You know that’s how it is.

298
00:22:02,866 –> 00:22:07,458
Konccen owat, vsv yvhikēt owēt ot. Yvhikēt owv? Ayvhikvr hą?
If you want, the other person can sing. Does he sing? Will they sing too?

299
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Heleluyvn yvhikarēs.
I will sing hallelujah.

300
00:22:14,577 –> 00:22:21,198
Hele-, heleluyvn.
Halle-, hallelujah.

301
00:22:21,198 –> 00:22:29,133
Heleluyvn yvhikarēs.
I will sing hallelujah.

302
00:22:29,133 –> 00:22:33,601
Hele-, helelu[yvn].
Halle-, hallelujah.

303
00:22:33,601 –> 00:22:41,491
Mēkusapvlket mimvn vpokēs.
Christians are living there.

304
00:22:41,491 –> 00:22:48,112
Hele-, heleluyvn.
Halle-, hallelujah.

305
00:22:48,112 –> 00:22:55,914
Mēkusapvlket mimvn vpokēs.
Christians are living there.

306
00:22:55,914 –> 00:23:00,602
Hele-, heleluyvn.
Halle-, hallelujah.

307
00:23:00,602 –> 00:23:08,560
Heleluyvn yvhikarēs.
I will sing hallelujah.

308
00:23:08,560 –> 00:23:15,180
Hele-, heleluyvn.
Halle-, hallelujah.

309
00:23:15,180 –> 00:23:23,083
Heleluyvn yvhikarēs.
I will sing hallelujah.

310
00:23:23,083 –> 00:23:31,941
Hele-, heleluyvn.
Halle-, hallelujah.

311
00:23:31,941 –> 00:23:38,399
Yvhiketv hę̄rus cē, here-mahēs.
It’s a pretty song, it’s very good.

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313
00:23:39,400 –> 00:23:43,697
Vtakrv-homv mahoken, o, enfvmecē yekcēt on.
Ragweed, they used to call it, ooh, it has a strong smell.

314
00:23:43,697 –> 00:23:45,503
Yvn ’tvn ocvcok owen.
There must be some around.

315
00:23:45,503 –> 00:23:48,666
Poison oak. Yv sage owēt onkv.
Poison oak. This looks like sage.

316
00:23:48,666 –> 00:23:49,566
Mvte? M-hm.
Is it? M-hm.

317
00:23:49,566 –> 00:23:55,502
O. Cause alvpakcet ont’n owat you can taste it, mowis it’s like a mint.
Oh. Cause if it’s alvpakce, you can taste it, it’s like a mint.

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You know, it smells just like a herb, though, yv sage owēt. Ehe. Enfvmecē.
You know, it smells just like a herb, though, like sage. Yes. Its fragrance.

319
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See it smells like sage. M-hm.
See it smells like sage. M-hm.

320
00:24:11,194 –> 00:24:16,289
‘Sepuhahoyekv kerrvkē okē hayēt ‘sepuhayētt ǫhos.
They’re filming us, like we know it all. They’re filming us.

321
00:24:16,289 –> 00:24:21,954
Heyvt … pvrko.
This is … grape.

322
00:24:21,954 –> 00:24:28,557
Pvrko honēcv, pvrko-rakko, hēcetskv?
Wild grapes, large grapes, do you see?

323
00:24:28,557 –> 00:24:34,888
Kicvkvs cē. Yv pvrkot os ē kic, yv pvrko.
Tell them. This is grapes, just saying. This is grapes.

324
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Pvrko fvkv, hēcetskv?
Grape vine, do you see it?

325
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326
00:24:45,034 –> 00:24:54,391
Hēcetskv? Hompepvs cē. Pvrko, pvrko ocēt os.
Do you see it? Go ahead and eat it. Grapes, there are grapes.

327
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M-hm, pvrko herēt os cē!
Yes, the grapes are good!

328
00:25:01,779 –> 00:25:08,364
Yv tv? Eto ‘stowat[e]t owa?
What about this? What tree is this?

329
00:25:08,364 –> 00:25:17,552
Vsv matat onko? Lakcv? Lakcv. M-hm, lakcvpe.
Isn’t that the same over there? Acorn? Acorn. Yes, oak.

330
00:25:17,552 –> 00:25:20,016
Mvt on, matat on.
That’s it, it’s the same.

331
00:25:20,016 –> 00:25:27,550
Eto ētv ’mvrahrvke mvn ocēt ont on, hocefkv ocvkēt owēt on, mvn
There are other different kinds of trees here, and they do have names.

332
00:25:27,550 –> 00:25:29,366
Etem opunvyēct owē.
That’s what we’re discussing.

333
00:25:29,366 –> 00:25:32,316
Puhosēpis owēt ont on.
Sometimes we forget.

334
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335
00:25:33,544 –> 00:25:36,829
Onahǫyet omvtisen, vneu.
They always used to tell me, too.

336
00:25:36,829 –> 00:25:40,874
’Stem apohicvkat tan ont os. M-hm.
Guess I didn’t listen. M-hm.

337
00:25:40,874 –> 00:25:43,433
Yv omvlkv svpaklet onkv, hiyowat.
And now they’re all standing here now.

338
00:25:43,433 –> 00:25:48,842
Hvtvm vcenv.
And cedar.

339
00:25:48,842 –> 00:25:53,016
Rakrakat mvt vcenvt’s.
The big ones are the cedars.

340
00:25:53,033 –> 00:25:58,266
Ohwen hvtvm, naken kict ohkeya?
Now what did we say?

341
00:25:58,266 –> 00:26:03,417
O, tvfosso yvn huerē. U-huh, tvfosso.
Oh, here is an elm tree. Yes, elm.

342
00:26:03,417 –> 00:26:07,655
’Towan okeyat?
Do you know which one?

343
00:26:07,655 –> 00:26:13,621
Yv entv̨lkus owē huerat mvt tvfossot os
The one standing by itself is the elm. M-hm.

344
00:26:13,621 –> 00:26:17,990
Hvtą cutkusat mvo tvfosso kihocat.
And the smallest one is also called elm.

345
00:26:17,990 –> 00:26:22,977
Mvt owakes. Mowen mv seca kict [ohw]ē-isē
That’s what they are. And we mentioned the black jack.

346
00:26:22,977 –> 00:26:25,926
Mv seca.
That’s black jack.

347
00:26:25,926 –> 00:26:29,930
Eto lvste owē aakhuerat, mvt’s.
That black tree that’s standing back there, that’s what it is.

348
00:26:29,930 –> 00:26:32,778
Mvn vhvn kvpe
And um lye

349
00:26:32,778 –> 00:26:35,583
Kvpe-cvfke? Kvpe-cvfke ’shahoyēt ont o, yv.
Lye? They used to make lye with this one.

350
00:26:35,583 –> 00:26:42,777
M-hm. Eto. Uh-huh, mv coskv? Mv lvpotkat, mv te? M-hm.
M-hm. The tree. Uh-huh, and that’s postoak? That straight one, is that it?

351
00:26:42,777 –> 00:26:47,355
Cukele eshayetv lvpǫtlakusat mvt?
Are those the straight ones they make posts out of?

352
00:26:47,355 –> 00:26:49,100
Coskvt ont os kowi.
I think it’s postoak.

353
00:26:49,100 –> 00:26:55,070
Mvn osafke eshakv mvn ‘shayvyēt owē tan okecces, vneu.
That’s the one you make sofkey lye with and that’s the one I make it with too.

354
00:26:55,070 –> 00:26:57,316
Heyvt naket os kict okca, yv?
And what did you say this was?

355
00:26:57,316 –> 00:26:58,810
Vtakrv-homv.
Ragweed.

356
00:26:58,810 –> 00:27:03,083
O. Mv ’stowēt ‘sē-vnicvkē tayen kerrvkot owisen.
Oh. I don’t know what you can use it for, though.

357
00:27:03,083 –> 00:27:05,611
Naken kict okca? Allergy? Uh-huh. Mv.
What did you say? Allergy? Uh-huh. That.

358
00:27:05,611 –> 00:27:12,871
Hę̄rat este yoksehnaket owēt yopo tisen enfihnaket onkv, torwv.
They usually have cold-like symptoms, their nose runs, and their eyes.

359
00:27:12,871 –> 00:27:17,917
Uh, akhvkihę̄cē ont fullat yvt omēcicen
Uh, it makes their eyes water, because of this,

360
00:27:17,917 –> 00:27:20,583
em owaket ont os kowit,
I think that’s the reason,

361
00:27:20,583 –> 00:27:26,022
’sē-vhesakakat. Un-huh. Em mokkē ocēt ont owakt os kerrvkot o.
they’re breathing it in. Un-huh. I guess it has pollen, I don’t know.

362
00:27:26,022 –> 00:27:30,616
Mont owis ont owist on ocēpis ont os.
I guess that’s right, I guess they have that.

363
00:27:30,616 –> 00:27:35,588
Yv tawv, hehcv. Un-huh.
This one maybe, look. Un-huh.

364
00:27:35,588 –> 00:27:40,919
Mowan okhoyē witēs.
I guess that’s the one they mean.

365
00:27:40,919 –> 00:27:47,033
Mv sage makcat owē enheckvtē onko, hehcv.
The sage you mentioned, it looks like it, doesn’t it, look.

366
00:27:47,033 –> 00:27:49,478
Uh-huh, kerrvks cē, mv tat.
Uh-huh, I don’t know about that.

367
00:27:49,478 –> 00:27:51,466
Herąkus kowvyēt owemvtan okces.
I think they look pretty as you mentioned.

368
00:27:51,466 –> 00:27:56,966
Yvt, yv te? Pvhet ont owisen, pulopockusofv…
This, is this it? It looks like grass, but when we were little…

369
00:27:56,966 –> 00:28:01,066
Pvhet ont owisen, hvmmēcusēt,
It’s grass, but we used to do like this,

370
00:28:01,098 –> 00:28:05,349
Akkopvnę̄pet owēmvts, hehcv. Hvtecce, yv.
we used to play with it, look. Wait, here.

371
00:28:05,349 –> 00:28:07,383
Oponrko owē hayēt.
Making cornworms.

372
00:28:07,383 –> 00:28:10,569
Uh-huh, hvmmēcet.
Uh-huh, like this.

373
00:28:10,569 –> 00:28:14,856
‘Sakkopvnę̄pet owēmvts. Hvmmēcet.
We used to play with it all the time. Doing like this.

374
00:28:14,856 –> 00:28:17,715
Nekēyet onko? Hehcv. M-hm.
It’s moving, isn’t it? Look. M-hm.

375
00:28:17,715 –> 00:28:18,716

376
00:28:18,716 –> 00:28:24,203
Wenahokv owēn nekēyict ‘sakkopvnę̄pet owēmvts, hvmmēct.
Like a bug, we moved it around and played with it a lot, doing like this.

377
00:28:24,203 –> 00:28:26,221

378
00:28:26,221 –> 00:28:29,538
Cvcutkosof mowēt ’sakkopvnēpvyēt owemvts.
When I was little that’s what I played with.

379
00:28:29,538 –> 00:28:31,743
[Mo]mis hiyowat mowof
But now back then

380
00:28:31,743 –> 00:28:34,316
Aepuculakat nak-sakkopvnkv ocēskot onkv,
When we were growing up, we didn’t have any toys to play with,

381
00:28:34,316 –> 00:28:37,763
nak ’stowis ’sakkopanet, halo tis ‘sakkopanet owvkēt owe[mvts].
so we played with anything, even cans.

382
00:28:37,763 –> 00:28:39,633
Uh-huh. Hehcv. Centv, mēc[ecc]ēt owemvte?
Uh-huh. Look. How about you, did you used to do that?

383
00:28:39,633 –> 00:28:42,249
Uh-huh. Hehcv, tasket owv? Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. Look, is it jumping? Uh-huh.

384
00:28:42,249 –> 00:28:47,189
Hehcv. Hers? Tasket os cē.
Look. Hers? It’s jumping.

385
00:28:47,189 –> 00:28:52,787
Yv ’mvtę̄kusis hecēt, wenahokv mahost os kict
This is the only thing we used to watch, it’s just like a worm.

386
00:28:52,787 –> 00:28:58,762
It moves. Uh-huh. Hehcv.
It moves. Uh-huh. Look.

387
00:28:58,762 –> 00:29:00,095

388
00:29:00,095 –> 00:29:04,930
’Sakkopant owēmvts.
We used to play with it.

389
00:29:04,930 –> 00:29:11,861
Whoops, alvtkes cē.
Whoops, it fell down.

390
00:29:11,861 –> 00:29:15,467
Hickory nut mvo paccet, vhvn
We used to pound hickory nuts,

391
00:29:15,467 –> 00:29:20,899
mv vpeswv owat, osafkeu ‘sakcvnhoyēt owēmvts, mvo.
and they used to put the meat of it in the sofkey, too.

392
00:29:20,899 –> 00:29:22,683
Mvo herēt owēs cē.
That’s good, too.

393
00:29:22,683 –> 00:29:25,306
Uh-huh. Ocē akcvnkē kicetvt’s.
Uh-huh. They used to call it hickory nut sofkey.

394
00:29:25,306 –> 00:29:31,156
Mvt, enlokcē lakcv [ocē] polospokēt owēs.
That one, its fruit is like a round acorn [meant to say nut].

395
00:29:31,156 –> 00:29:37,387
Hvrpv, hvrpe– “Hvrpv” kict ok. Hvrpe tvkvctvwēt ont.
Their shells–I said it wrong. Their shells are hard.

396
00:29:37,387 –> 00:29:43,140
Naket, nafket tvkohlicet, mv em vpeswv ocat mvn
What is it, you hit it and crack it, and the meat inside,

397
00:29:43,140 –> 00:29:50,033
Encawet, osafke akcvnkv eshayetv owēs.
you take those out and that’s what you make it with.

398
00:29:50,033 –> 00:29:51,696
Mvo hę̄rēt owēs.
And that is good, too.

399
00:29:51,696 –> 00:29:55,099
Orēn ’mvtotketvt onkv, mvn cvyacekot on.
That’s hard work, I don’t like it.

400
00:29:55,099 –> 00:29:56,566
Vcvtotkihocen,
They made me do the work,

401
00:29:56,566 –> 00:30:01,287
mvn mę̄cvyēt owēmvts, cvckuce hayēt onkv.
I used to do it all the time, because my aunt used to make it.

402
00:30:01,287 –> 00:30:04,136

403
00:30:04,136 –> 00:30:05,137

404
00:30:05,137 –> 00:30:09,531
Sulkēt ont owisen, vntat omvlkvn kerrvko. Uh-huh.
There are so many things, and I don’t know them all. Uh-huh.

405
00:30:09,531 –> 00:30:19,402
Waskot pulokahkē witētok. ’Mvtēkus kowis. Mvto.
Chiggers might eat us up. I think that’s all. Thank you.

406
00:30:19,402 –> 00:30:23,283
M-hm. Mvto. Mvto. Vlahket, pum vnicetskat puncukopericetskat.
M-hm. Thank you. Thank you for coming and helping us and visiting.

407
00:30:23,283 –> 00:30:27,884
Fettv vtę̄kusis welakvkn owat, ’tenhę̄rēt owēt onkv.
Just being outside with one another makes you feel good.

408
00:30:27,884 –> 00:30:37,883
’Svcafvckēs vm pohakt owatskat. Uh-huh. Mvto. ’Mvtēkus cē.
I am happy that y’all invited me. Uh-huh. Thank you. That’s all!

409
00:30:37,883 –> 00:30:39,785

410
00:30:39,785 –> 00:30:40,786

411
00:30:40,786 –> 00:30:41,787

412
00:30:41,787 –> 00:30:43,487

413
00:30:43,487 –> 00:30:52,145

414
00:30:52,145 –> 00:31:00,650

415
00:31:00,650 –> 00:31:05,724

416
00:31:05,724 –> 00:31:13,940

417
00:31:13,940 –> 00:31:19,811